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You walk into an RV dealership with stars in your eyes and aย $99-per-month paymentย dancing in your head. That shiny new motorhome or travel trailer is calling your name, and the salesperson is telling you exactly what you want to hear. But by the time you sit down in that tiny finance office, something magicalโand not in a good wayโhappens to that payment.
Suddenly, youโre staring atย $250 per monthย or more, and youโre not quite sure how you got there. Welcome to the RV payment trap, where dealers use sneaky add-ons, hidden fees, and financing tricks to turn your dream purchase into a financial nightmare. In this eye-opening interview withย Kevin Frazer from Cheyenne Camping Center, RV Wingman Alan Warren exposes the dealer tactics that bury families in debt for years.
If your gut is telling you something feels off about that โdeal,โ you need to keep reading. This article will arm you with the knowledge to spot these tricks before you sign on the dotted line.
1. The $99 Payment Illusion: How Dealers Make Numbers Disappear (and Reappear Bigger)
Hereโs how the magic trick works:ย dealers advertise a ridiculously low monthly paymentย to get you through the door. Once youโre hooked on that specific RV, they start playing with three variables in the finance office: the loan term, the interest rate, and hidden products.
First, they stretch your payment out overย 240 months or moreย (thatโs 20 years, folks). Then they bump up your APR by 2-4% above what you actually qualified for. Finally, they slip in add-ons and warranties that jack up the total price.
By the time all these โadjustmentsโ are made, your $99 payment has somehow ballooned to $250 or higher. According to theย RV Industry Association, the average RV loan term has increased to 180-240 months, making it easier for dealers to manipulate monthly payments while hiding the true cost.
Hereโs the Reality Check:ย You might think paying โjustโ $250 a month sounds reasonable, but over 20 years, youโre looking at paying for that RV two or three times over in interest alone. The RV will be worth a fraction of what you owe long before you make that final payment.
2. Extended Warranties: When โProtectionโ Costs You 38% Interest
Extended service contracts sound like a smart safety net, right?ย Wrongโat least the way most dealers sell them.ย In the video, Kevin Frazer exposes dealers selling extended warranties atย APRs between 18% and 38%. Yes, you read that correctly: thirty-eight percent interest on a warranty.
Hereโs how it works: instead of paying for the extended warranty upfront, dealers roll it into your financing at a marked-up interest rate. You might think youโre getting โpeace of mind,โ but youโre actually getting fleeced. Theย National Association of Consumer Advocatesย warns that dealer-financed add-ons often carry interest rates far exceeding the base loan APR.
A legitimate extended warrantyย canย provide valueโbut only when purchased at a fair price from a reputable third party. You shouldย shop warranties through your credit union or independent providersย where you can pay cash or finance at reasonable rates.
The Giggle-Worthy Truth:ย Youโll be paying so much interest on that warranty that you could probably buy a whole new RV by the time it expires. At 38% APR, that warranty is working harder than you areโjust not for your benefit.
3. The Add-On Avalanche: Death by a Thousand Upsells
Once youโre in the finance office, the dealer will start piling on add-ons like theyโre building a sandwich at Subway.ย GAP insurance, paint protection, fabric protection, tire and wheel coverage, VIN etching, and mysterious โprotection bundlesโย all start appearing on your contract. Each one sounds reasonable individually, but together they can addย $5,000-$10,000ย to your total cost.
Letโs break down the common culprits:
| Add-On | What They Say | The Reality |
|---|---|---|
| GAP Insurance | Protects you if your RV is totaled and you owe more than itโs worth | Can be useful, but dealer markup is often 200-300%. Buy from your auto insurer instead. |
| Paint/Fabric Protection | Keeps your RV looking showroom-new | A $30 bottle of protectant does the same thing. Markup is astronomical. |
| Tire & Wheel Coverage | Covers tire damage and wheel repairs | Rarely pays out, limited coverage, expensive premium. |
| VIN Etching | Deters theft by etching VIN on windows | Costs $10 to DIY, dealers charge $300-$500. |
According toย Consumer Reports, dealer add-ons are marked up by an average ofย 300-500%ย compared to purchasing the same products elsewhere. The finance manager gets a commission on every add-on you accept, which is why they push so hard.
Your Wallet Called:ย It wants you to know that paying $500 for someone to etch your VIN number on your windows is like paying $20 for a cup of coffee. Sure, youย couldย do it, but why would you when you can get the same thing for $2 elsewhereโor better yet, free?
4. Junk Fees: The โBecause We Canโ Charges
Junk fees are the dealerโs way of nickel-and-diming you to death.ย These are charges that have vague names like โdocumentation fee,โ โdealer prep,โ โprocessing fee,โ or โadministrative fee.โ One shocking example from the video: a customer paidย $1,100 for a โwalk-throughโย that lasted five minutes and consisted of nothing more than the salesperson talking.
Theย Federal Trade Commissionย has been cracking down on junk fees across industries, noting that these fees often have no basis in actual services provided. In the RV industry, documentation fees can range fromย $200 to $1,500ย depending on the state, and thereโs rarely any real โdocumentationโ being done that justifies the cost.
Hereโs what you need to know: some fees are legitimate and unavoidable (like state registration and title fees), but many are pure profit for the dealer. You have the right toย question every single line itemย on your contract and demand an explanation.
The Eye-Roll Moment:ย Youโre paying over a thousand bucks for a โwalk-throughโ where someone points at your RV and says, โThatโs the door. Thatโs a window. Questions?โ Meanwhile, your 11-month-old RV sitting on the lot hasnโt even been washed. What a deal.
5. The PDI Phantom: When Your โInspectionโ Never Happened
PDI stands for Pre-Delivery Inspection, and itโs supposed to be a thorough check of your RV before you take delivery. The dealer should verify that everything works, all components are present, the unit is clean, and any factory defects are addressed. Sounds great, right?
Hereโs the dirty secret Kevin Frazer reveals:ย most PDIs are complete theater.ย Your RV might have been sitting on the lot for 11 months, unwashed and uninspected. Missing parts? Never checked. Systems tested? Nope. But youโll still be charged hundreds or even overย $1,000ย for this โservice.โ
Theย RV Technical Instituteย recommends a comprehensive PDI checklist with over 100 inspection points. Most dealers skip 90% of these and hand you the keys after a five-minute speech. Then, when you discover problems after purchase, they tell you itโs your responsibility.
The Facepalm Reality:ย You just paid $1,100 for someone to literally NOT do their job. Itโs like paying a chef to not cook your dinner, or paying a barber to not cut your hair. Congratulationsโyouโve mastered the art of paying for nothing.
6. The Loan Trap: Welcome to RV Purgatory
This is where things get really scary.ย Dealers structure your loan to keep you โupside downโย (owing more than the RV is worth) for yearsโsometimes for the entire life of the loan. How? By combining long loan terms, high interest rates, hidden fees, and the natural depreciation of RVs.
Hereโs a sobering example: you finance a $60,000 travel trailer atย 8% APR over 20 years. With all the add-ons, youโre actually financing $75,000. Meanwhile, your RV depreciates byย 20-30% in the first year aloneย according toย NADA Guides. By year two, your RV is worth $42,000, but you still owe $68,000.
Youโre trapped. You canโt sell it without writing a huge check. You canโt trade it without rolling massive negative equity into your next loan. Kevin Frazer calls this โRV purgatoryโโand thousands of families are stuck there right now.
| Year | Loan Balance | RV Value | Negative Equity |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | $72,500 | $45,000 | -$27,500 |
| 3 | $67,000 | $38,000 | -$29,000 |
| 5 | $60,000 | $32,000 | -$28,000 |
| 10 | $45,000 | $20,000 | -$25,000 |
The Brutal Math:ย Youโre essentially paying rent on an RV youโll never actually own outright. By the time you finally pay it off, youโll have spent enough money to buy three RVsโand the one you have will be ready for the junkyard. Itโs like being stuck in a really expensive, slow-motion car crash.
7. The Sky-High APR Scam: When Your Rate Gets โBumpedโ
Hereโs a dirty secret Kevin Frazer exposes:ย you might qualify for a 6% APR, but the dealer quotes you 9% or 10%ย and pockets the difference. This is called โrate markupโ or โdealer reserve,โ and itโs completely legal in most statesโeven though it costs you thousands.
Letโs do the math: on a $60,000 loan over 15 years, the difference betweenย 6% and 10% APR is over $22,000ย in additional interest payments. Thatโs $22,000 going straight into the dealerโs pocket for doing absolutely nothing exceptย notย giving you the best rate you qualified for.
Theย Consumer Financial Protection Bureauย has investigated this practice extensively, finding that consumers often have no idea theyโre being charged more than necessary. Dealers have no obligation to tell you theyโve marked up your rateโand they usually donโt.
This is whyย getting pre-approved financing from your bank or credit unionย is absolutely critical. When you walk in with your own financing, the dealer canโt play these games. You know your rate, you know your terms, and you have negotiating power.
The Wallet-Punch Reality:ย Youโre literally funding the dealerโs vacation to Hawaii with your rate markup. While youโre eating ramen noodles to make your RV payment, theyโre sipping mai tais on a beach you helped pay for. But sure, that 10% APR seems โreasonable,โ right?
Your Action Plan: How to Avoid the RV Dealer Trap
Now that you know the tricks, hereโs yourย step-by-step defense strategyย according to Kevin Frazer and RV Wingman:
1. Get Pre-Approved Financing BEFORE You Shopย Contact your bank or credit union and get a loan pre-approval. Know your rate and terms before stepping foot in a dealership. This removes the dealerโs financing power over you.
2. Never Negotiate Monthly Paymentsย Dealers LOVE when you focus on monthly payments because they can manipulate everything else. Instead,ย negotiate the out-the-door priceโthe total amount youโll pay including all fees, taxes, and charges.
3. Demand a Line-Item Breakdownย Before signing anything, insist on seeing every single charge itemized. Ask what each fee is for and why itโs necessary. If they canโt explain it, refuse to pay it.
4. Use the Walk-Away Scriptย Practice saying this:ย โI need to sleep on this decision. Iโll come back tomorrow if Iโm still interested.โย This simple phrase removes all pressure and gives you time to review everything with a clear head.
5. Verify the PDI Was Actually Doneย Demand a full demonstration of every system in the RV. Check that itโs been washed, all components are present, and everything works. If something is missing or broken, make them fix it before you take delivery.
6. Check References and Reviewsย Research the dealership thoroughly. Look for patterns of complaints about hidden fees, poor service, or financing tricks. Theย Better Business Bureauย andย RV-specific forumsย are great resources.
7. Shop Add-Ons Externallyย Buy GAP insurance from your auto insurer, extended warranties from third-party providers, and skip the overpriced dealer add-ons entirely. Youโll save thousands.
The Bottom Line:ย Youโre about to make one of the biggest purchases of your life. Taking an extra day or week to get it right could save youย $10,000-$30,000. Any dealer who pressures you to โbuy todayโ is showing you exactly why you should walk away.
Final Thoughts: Knowledge is Your Best Defense
The RV lifestyle can be absolutely incredibleโbut only if youโre not drowning in predatory debt. The tactics exposed in this video with Kevin Frazer are used by dealers across the country every single day. They count on you being excited, overwhelmed, and uninformed.
Donโt be that buyer. Armed with this knowledge, you can spot these tricks from a mile away. You can demand fair treatment, fair pricing, and fair financing. And most importantly, you canย walk away from any deal that doesnโt feel right.
Remember what Kevin and Alan emphasized:ย if your gut tells you something is off, believe it. That uncomfortable feeling in the finance office isnโt nervousness about a big purchaseโitโs your instincts screaming that youโre being taken advantage of.
Take your time, do your homework, and never let a dealer pressure you into a bad decision. Your dream RV adventure should start with confidence and excitementโnot regret and financial stress.
SOURCES
- RV Wingman โ โTHE $99 PAYMENT TRAP: RV DEALER ADD-ONS & WARRANTY MARKUPS EXPOSED (WITH KEVIN FRAZER) PART 2 of 4โ โย https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3ZlalUByQ
- RV Industry Association โ RV Financing Trends and Statistics โย https://www.rvia.org/
- National Association of Consumer Advocates โ Dealer Add-On Markup Information โย https://www.consumeradvocates.org/
- Consumer Reports โ โAvoid These Dealer Add-Onsโ โย https://www.consumerreports.org/
- Federal Trade Commission โ Consumer Protection Against Junk Fees โย https://www.ftc.gov/
- RV Technical Institute โ Pre-Delivery Inspection Guidelines โย https://www.rvti.com/
- NADA Guides โ RV Depreciation and Values โย https://www.nadaguides.com/
- Consumer Financial Protection Bureau โ Auto Loan Rate Markup Investigation โย https://www.consumerfinance.gov/
- Better Business Bureau โ RV Dealer Reviews and Ratings โย https://www.bbb.org/
- Cheyenne Camping Center โ Kevin Frazer Interview Source โย https://www.youtube.com/@TheRVWingman
